Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/16/1996 02:20 PM House FIN

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  SENATE BILL 69                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act  relating  to  hazardous  chemicals,  hazardous                 
       materials, and hazardous waste."                                        
                                                                               
  ANNETTE  KREITZER, STAFF,  SENATOR  LOREN  LEMAN,  spoke  in                 
  support  of  SB  69.   She  explained  that  as we  downsize                 
  government,  and  make it  more "user  friendly", a  need to                 
                                                                               
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  assess the efficiency becomes more apparent.                                 
                                                                               
  Currently, businesses  in Alaska  must report  virtually the                 
  same information  about hazardous  chemicals, materials  and                 
  wastes in four different formats to four different entities.                 
  The proposed legislation  would eliminate three  formats and                 
  one entity.                                                                  
                                                                               
  The  bill  was  drafted  with   input  from  industry,  fire                 
  departments, Department of Environmental  Conservation (DEC)                 
  and the Department of Public  Safety (DPS), Division of Fire                 
  Prevention.   The information reported would  be streamlined                 
  to one form  which would   satisfy federal, state and  local                 
  reporting requirements.                                                      
                                                                               
  Ms. Kreitzer continued, providing the Committee  a sectional                 
  analysis of  the legislation.   Section 1  was an  amendment                 
  added  in the  House Resources  Committee  and would  add an                 
  immunity  to  Title  9,  protecting  the State  from  strict                 
  liability for oil spills or  other environmental releases at                 
  the REAA schools.  Without the  change, the State and school                 
  districts could  each be liable for 100%  of damages claimed                 
  from environmental problems on school  sites.  The amendment                 
  was added as part of the State's response to the Toksook Bay                 
  lawsuit.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Section 2 & 3 deletes reference to AS 18.70.310 of the state                 
  fire marshals placarding program.  A placarding program list                 
  which hazardous substances or chemicals  are in the vicinity                 
  and how one should respond in fire suppression.  The program                 
  has not been effective nor well implemented.                                 
                                                                               
  Ms. Kreitzer commented that Section  4, Subsection (a) would                 
  make the State  Emergency Response Commission the  agency to                 
  approve a form  to be used  for the reporting of  placarding                 
  information  under a  municipal  placarding  program.    The                 
  action would ensure  that if the  form needs to be  changed,                 
  the  commission  could  coordinate with  all  agencies  that                 
  receive such reports.                                                        
                                                                               
  Section 5, Subsection  (c) refers to the  existing municipal                 
  placarding program.   Currently under State or  federal law,                 
  either  a  municipality  or  the  State  Emergency  Response                 
  Commission  (SERC)  may  add  substances  to  those  already                 
  required  to be  reported.   This  section ensures  a public                 
  process for adding or removing substances.                                   
                                                                               
  MARIE SANSONE,  ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL,  CIVIL DIVISION,                 
  DEPARTMENT  OF  LAW, commented  that the  Attorney General's                 
  Office was supportive of the proposed legislation.                           
                                                                               
  Ms. Kreitzer spoke to Amendment #1 which would place a time-                 
                                                                               
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  line  on  when the  form  should be  developed,  which would                 
  provide date certain times for the public.                                   
                                                                               
  Representative  Mulder  MOVED  to  adopt  Amendment  #1,  9-                 
  LS0360\K.1, Lauterbach, 2/06/96.   There being NO OBJECTION,                 
  it was adopted.                                                              
                                                                               
  CHESTER  WEGNER,  (TESTIFIED VIA  TELECONFERENCE), ASSISTANT                 
  STATE FIRE MARSHAL,  ANCHORAGE, advised that the  State Fire                 
  Marshal's  Office was  in support  of the  legislation.   He                 
  stated that the current program  was difficult to implement.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  CHRIS  KENNEDY,  (TESTIFIED  VIA TELECONFERENCE),  ASSISTANT                 
  ATTORNEY  GENERAL,  CIVIL  DIVISION, ANCHORAGE,  offered  to                 
  answer questions on Section 1 of the legislation.                            
                                                                               
  CRYSTAL  SMITH,  LEGAL  ADMINISTRATOR,  DEPARTMENT  OF  LAW,                 
  provided an overview of Section 1.  Section 1 represents one                 
  aspect  of  the  Administration's  response  to  the  States                 
  exposure  to the major  liability which was  revealed in the                 
  Toksook Bay  lawsuit.  That lawsuit was  brought in response                 
  to a fuel  spill at an REAA  school which occurred in  1990.                 
  The State  received that  school from  the Bureau  of Indian                 
  Affairs (BIA) just a year prior to the incident.                             
                                                                               
  The result of  the lawsuit has  been addressed by a  consent                 
  judgement.  A settlement against the  State was made and the                 
  REAA's  are now paying  a portion of that  settlement.  As a                 
  result, the  State's  liability for  damages  was  revealed.                 
  Without the  change included  in  Section 1,  the State  and                 
  school district could be held 100% liable for any damages at                 
  the  school  sites.     The  exemption  from   liability  is                 
  "narrowly"  drawn  and would  only  apply for  liability for                 
  damages.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Ms.  Smith continued, Section  14 includes  the transitional                 
  applicability  language  which  has  to  do with  Section  1                 
  exemptions.   Representative Parnell asked  if under current                 
  law,  the State  was  exempt  from  strict liability.    Mr.                 
  Kennedy  advised that the legislation would change liability                 
  for both the State and the REAA.                                             
                                                                               
  Currently,  both the State and the  REAA are strictly liable                 
  under AS 46.03.822.   Representative Parnell asked  if there                 
  would  be  any  other transfers  by  the  federal government                 
  similar  to  the  REAA's  that  the  State  currently  bears                 
  exposure for which are not  being addressed in the  proposed                 
  legislation.    Mr. Kennedy  suggested there  probably were,                 
  although in SB 69,  a specific problem was addressed  at the                 
  request of the Senate leadership.                                            
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  FRANK JOHN DILLON, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), EXECUTIVE                 
  VICE  PRESIDENT,  ALASKA  TRUCKING  ASSOCIATION,  ANCHORAGE,                 
  commented that  the association which he  represents handles                 
  the  majority  of  the  hazardous  materials in  the  State.                 
  Currently,  that  group  is  stringently  regulated  by  the                 
  federal   government.     Mr.  Dillon  requested   that  the                 
  legislation  not  move   beyond  federal  requirements   and                 
  regulations.                                                                 
                                                                               
  At  this  time, tremendous  amounts  of hazardous  waste and                 
  materials are moved  without incident.  The  reason this can                 
  be done, is  that there  currently exists a  body of  "good"                 
  safety  regulations and required enforcement of those rules.                 
  He requested  that the legislation  not move beyond  what is                 
  reasonable or what is contained in federal regulations.                      
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-123, Side 2).                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Kelly  asked if "hazardous waste"  as defined                 
  in AS  46.03.900 and  the Environmental  Statute 40  CFR 261                 
  were different.  Ms. Kreitzer replied that  the AS 46.03.900                 
  was more encompassing than the other one referenced.                         
                                                                               
  Ms. Sansone added that the  hazardous waste definition which                 
  is in law in  Title 46 is  broad and written in  qualitative                 
  terms.    However, in  implementing  the State  Statute, DEC                 
  adopted   the   Environmental   Protection    Agency   (EPA)                 
  identification  of  hazardous  waste   sets  in  regulation,                 
  whereas, the  State is  using the  federal standard  list of                 
  hazardous waste.   There is a  provision in State law  which                 
  allows the commissioner of  DEC to find other ways  in which                 
  something  may  be   "hazardous".     She  added,  the   DEC                 
  commissioner  has   never  carried  through  and   named  an                 
  additional substance.                                                        
                                                                               
  The definition  of "hazardous materials"  references another                 
  section  in  the  federal  regulations.   Those  regulations                 
  designate  and   identifies  hazardous  materials   for  the                 
  purposes   of   transportation   laws.     Regarding   those                 
  regulations,  the  State and  local  laws are  pre-empted by                 
  federal regulations which are more detailed.                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Kelly MOVED a conceptual amendment to Section                 
  11, Subsection  (A) & (B),  removing (B),  which he  thought                 
  would avoid "non-achievable" standards currently existing in                 
  regulation.    Representative  Brown  asked which  chemicals                 
  would be covered in removal of Subsection (B).  There was no                 
  representative from DEC who could explain that exemption.                    
                                                                               
  Ms. Kreitzer  asserted that  the Senate Resources  Committee                 
  made it explicit  that it  was not their  intent to  include                 
  anything  more stringent  then  already  existed in  federal                 
                                                                               
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  regulations.  She  thought that the  legislation was a  step                 
  toward  streamlining all  the  current reportings  required.                 
  Removing portions of the legislation could affect the entire                 
  bill.  Representative Kelly voiced concern that the language                 
  was "too  broad" and removal  would make the  State standard                 
  less stringent.                                                              
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley pointed out that the  intent was to combine                 
  four  different requirements into one.  He explained that if                 
  information  was  required  to be  reported  "somewhere"  in                 
  statute, and then  removed from the form,  someone might not                 
  be  in  compliance  by  not  reporting  on  that  one  form.                 
  Representative Kelly WITHDREW  the MOTION to  the amendment.                 
  There being NO OBJECTION, it was withdrawn.                                  
                                                                               
  Representative Brown questioned Section 5,  Page 3, Line 20,                 
  the  change  from  500  pounds  to  10  thousand pounds  for                 
  reporting of a hazardous chemical.  Ms. Kreitzer stated that                 
  change was consistent with federal law.                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault asked why there  was a zero fiscal                 
  note for DEC.   Ms. Kreitzer  responded, currently, DEC  has                 
  been  delegated by the  State Emergency  Response Commission                 
  (SERC)  as  the agency  which  receives "community  right to                 
  know" reports.  That motion has  not been rescinded to date.                 
  DEC  currently  makes the  report  available and  the Senate                 
  assumed that DEC could continue  to provide that obligation.                 
  She emphasized that this is not a new requirement.                           
                                                                               
  Representative Martin MOVED to report HCS CS SB 69 (FIN) out                 
  of Committee  with individual recommendations.   There being                 
  NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                             
                                                                               
  HCS CS SB 69 (FIN) was reported  out of Committee with a "do                 
  pass"  recommendation  and   with  a  fiscal  note   by  the                 
  Department of Public  Safety dated  2/07/96 and zero  fiscal                 
  notes by the Department of Military & Veterans Affairs dated                 
  2/07/96 and the Senate Finance Committee dated 2/07/96.                      

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